Create ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl #3869

AnnaCouthuresIdrizi · Jan 10, 2019

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rmzelle · Jan 12, 2019

Thanks! Is the style guide for this citation format available online? We try to always include a "documentation" link in our repository styles. See https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Style-Requirements#10---documentation-link as well.

Same holds for #3868.

AnnaCouthuresIdrizi · Jan 14, 2019

Dear Rintze, The documentation is still not online, but will be available at this address : https://sciencespo.libguides.com/zotero/styles Did you now when the style will be included in the official repository ? Best regards, *Anna Couthures-Idrizi* bibliothécaire Direction des Ressources et de l'Information Scientifique 27 rue Saint-Guillaume 75337 Paris cedex 07 France T. +33 (0)1 45 49 50 43 anna.couthuresidrizi@sciencespo.fr Libguide Humanités <http:///> www.sciencespo.fr [image: Twitter Sciences Po] <https://twitter.com/sciencespo> <https://www.facebook.com/sciencespo> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12454> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12454> Le sam. 12 janv. 2019 à 05:50, Rintze M. Zelle <notifications@github.com> a écrit :

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Thanks! Is the style guide for this citation format available online? We try to always include a "documentation" link in our repository styles. See https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki/Style-Requirements#10---documentation-link as well. Same holds for #3868 <#3868>. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3869 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/Ao8bMTJyYDgk6dXsLK5CRgpNPruwTbZtks5vCWl-gaJpZM4Z5GTn> .

adam3smith · Jan 15, 2019

(I'm happy to merge this before the styleguide goes live, but there are some quality issues with the style code, so please don't quite merge yet). Will review in detail tomorrow

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

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Thanks! A bunch of comments & suggested improvements in line. Please apply the same ideas to your other style submission.

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+        <names variable="author">
+          <name form="short" and="text" delimiter-precedes-last="never" sort-separator=" " font-style="normal">
+          </name>
+        </names>


let's handle this with substitute, please

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+        <names variable="author">
+          <name form="long" and="text" name-as-sort-order="first" sort-separator=", " font-style="normal">
+            <name-part name="family" font-variant="small-caps"/>
+          </name>


ditto here -- editor should just be in substitute

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

Dear all, for a lot of items, i just copied/pasted elements from other styles already in your repository. I do not understand why i should have to correct those elements.
If it's really necessary to correct them, could you please help me ?
Best regards,
Anna

Yes, if you want a style hosted by us, which goes out to software with hundreds of thousands of end users, we absolutely insist on quality control on submission. If you want to have the style available, you can always self-host it.

We do this on a volunteer basis, so if you need significant help -- as in this case, where you essentially ask me to explain almost every change request -- this may take a bit longer, sorry.

Dear Sebastian,
Thank you so much for your help !
I'm already volunteer for other academic subjects, and i'm well aware that people write you only when they have a problem or a claim ; so i deeply apologize if my last email hurted you, that was not the scope.
Now that you fixed all issues, what is the next step ? Can both styles (author date & note) be shared through styles repository ?
Best regards,
Anna

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+<macro name="access">
+    <choose>
+      <if type="article article-journal article-magazine article-newspaper book broadcast chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia thesis graphic legal_case legislation manuscript map motion_picture paper-conference patent post post-weblog personal_communication report song speech webpage" match="any">
+      <text variable="URL" prefix="En ligne : " suffix=" "/>          


This should all be wrapped into an if variable="URL" test to avoid getting just the accessed date

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+      </else-if>
+      <else-if type="chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia" match="any">
+        <group>
+          <group suffix=" ">


remove this group and set a delimiter=" " on the outer group for the spacing.

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+  <macro name="collection">
+    <choose>
+      <if is-numeric="collection-number">
+          <text variable="collection-title" prefix="(" suffix=""/>


let's put these two in a group with the parentheses around the group.

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+        <if position="ibid-with-locator">
+          <group delimiter=", ">
+            <text term="ibid" text-case="capitalize-first" font-style="italic" suffix="."/>
+            <text variable="locator" prefix="p. "/>


as above, use label instead (also, presumably should be nbsp?)

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

adam3smith · Jan 17, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+      <key variable="issued" sort="descending"/>
+    </sort>
+    <layout>
+        <text macro="author" suffix=". "/>


more elegant to handle all of these suffixes with a single delimiter=". "

i don't understand how to do that

could you help me, please ?

rmzelle · Jan 19, 2019

@AnnaCouthuresIdrizi, let us know if you need any help implementing @adam3smith's suggestions. We'd like to include these before accepting the style.

And I see that https://sciencespo.libguides.com/zotero/styles is now online. Does the website describe the note and author-date citation formats itself anywhere? I briefly looked around but didn't see any examples of what citations should look like.

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AnnaCouthuresIdrizi · Feb 26, 2019

Dear Rintze, Thank your for your answer. Yes, i think i need a little bit of help to apply the required modifications. I thought the CSL validator validation was enough... Best regards, *Anna Couthures-Idrizi* bibliothécaire Direction des Ressources et de l'Information Scientifique 27 rue Saint-Guillaume 75337 Paris cedex 07 France T. +33 (0)1 45 49 50 43 anna.couthuresidrizi@sciencespo.fr Libguide Humanités <http:///> www.sciencespo.fr [image: Twitter Sciences Po] <https://twitter.com/sciencespo> <https://www.facebook.com/sciencespo> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12454> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12454> Le sam. 19 janv. 2019 à 22:24, Rintze M. Zelle <notifications@github.com> a écrit :

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@AnnaCouthuresIdrizi <https://github.com/AnnaCouthuresIdrizi>, let us know if you need any help implementing @adam3smith <https://github.com/adam3smith>'s suggestions. We'd like to include these before accepting the style. And I see that https://sciencespo.libguides.com/zotero/styles is now online. Does the website describe the note and author-date citation formats itself anywhere? I briefly looked around but didn't see any examples of what citations should look like. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3869 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/Ao8bMb1FfcC4Hec33-hKarojTJFZwKsRks5vE40IgaJpZM4Z5GTn> .

adam3smith · Feb 26, 2019

Could you specify where you need help/additional information? Just reply to my comments.

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AnnaCouthuresIdrizi · Mar 13, 2019

Dear all, I replied to all comments. For some of them, i need help to apply the required corrections. This style is really long-waited by our students. Please, help... Best regards, *Anna Couthures-Idrizi* bibliothécaire Direction des Ressources et de l'Information Scientifique 27 rue Saint-Guillaume 75337 Paris cedex 07 France T. +33 (0)1 45 49 50 43 anna.couthuresidrizi@sciencespo.fr Libguide Humanités <http:///> www.sciencespo.fr [image: Twitter Sciences Po] <https://twitter.com/sciencespo> <https://www.facebook.com/sciencespo> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12454> <https://www.linkedin.com/edu/school?id=12454> Le mar. 26 févr. 2019 à 18:23, Sebastian Karcher <notifications@github.com> a écrit :

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Could you specify where you need help/additional information? Just reply to my comments. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3869 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/Ao8bMUh1cGsztFsFLlopW9U-9zathfj0ks5vRW10gaJpZM4Z5GTn> .

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OK, I was able to fix most things, but one question remaining

adam3smith · Apr 3, 2019

ecole-doctorale-de-sciences-po-author-date-french.csl

+      <if type="bill book chapter entry-dictionary entry-encyclopedia thesis legal_case manuscript map paper-conference song" match="any">
+        <choose>
+          <if variable="publisher-place" match="any">
+            <text variable="publisher-place" suffix=" : "/>


@AnnaCouthuresIdrizi -- I don't understand why this is marked as resolved? If I'm wrong about the above, you'd need to say why. I'm very skeptical that the code as is produces correct output.

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rmzelle · Apr 9, 2019

(@adam3smith, the related #3868 automatically closed because of inactivity)

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adam3smith · Apr 20, 2019

Sorry for the wait. @AnnaCouthuresIdrizi if you want the note version added as well, you'd have to make the analogous changes implemented here on that style: #3868 . Let me know if you want me to reopen that issue

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