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@YoungZoe, thanks. Do you know if this is discussed in the style guide somewhere? |
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Yes on the first page. Guide attached.
“If you are citing different publications written by the same author in the same year, label the first
one cited with the letter ‘a’ after the year and the second ‘b’ etc. e.g. (Smith 2015a), (Smith
2015b). You will need to do the same in your list of references.”
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@YoungZoe<https://github.com/YoungZoe>, thanks. Do you know if this is discussed in the style guide somewhere?
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right, but your changes don't affect citations by the same author(s). They're only relevant where
The passage you cite is silent on this as far as I can tell. |
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Hi Sebastian,
This does work the way I want it to because elsewhere in the guide I attached in my last email it states that “When there are three or more authors use the abbreviation et al. (and others) after the first author’s surname e.g. Cullingworth et al. (2016) or (Cullingworth et al. 2016).”
This has been raised because of a student using the two references below.
Ramnarine, K. et al. 2014a. Shear wave elastography assessment of carotid plaque stiffness: in vitro reproducibility study. Ultrasound in Medicine & Biology 40(1), pp. 200–209. doi: 10.1016/j.ultrasmedbio.2013.09.014.
Ramnarine, K. et al. 2014b. Shear wave elastography imaging of carotid plaques: feasible, reproducible and of clinical potential. Cardiovascular Ultrasound 12. Available at: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4293004/ [Accessed: 4 September 2018].
Without the change I have made it adds further names or adds an initial which we don’t want.
We want them to appear like this (Ramnarine et al. 2014a; Ramnarine et al. 2014b)
Hope this makes sense
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Subject Librarian, School of Healthcare Sciences, Optometry and Pharmacy
Health Library
University Library Service
Cardiff University
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Cardiff
CF14 4YU
Tel: 029 22510196
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The University welcomes correspondence in Welsh or English.
Mrs Zoe Young BSc(Hons) MSc(ECON)
Llyfrgellydd Pwnc, Ysgol Gwyddorau Gofal Iechyd, Optometreg a Fferylliaeth
Llyfrgell Iechyd
Gwasanaeth Llyfrgell y Brifysgol
Prifysgol Caerdydd
Adeilad Cochrane
Parc y Mynydd Bychan
Caerdydd
CF14 4YU
Ffôn: 029 22510196
Gwefan: www.caerdydd.ac.uk<http://www.caerdydd.ac.uk/>
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Subject: Re: [citation-style-language/styles] Update harvard-cardiff-university.csl (#3676)
right, but your changes don't affect citations by the same author(s). They're only relevant where
1. different authors with the same last name are cited (add-givenname)
2. the first author is the same but not the whole set of authors (add-names)
The passage you cite is silent on this as far as I can tell.
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@YoungZoe, thanks for clarifying. Would it be possible for you to attach the guide to a new comment here? You need to use the GitHub website for that (via simple drag and drop), email attachments aren't saved. |
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I'll note that the passage of the guide you quote is still entirely ambiguous/silent on how citations by different author groups with the same first author should be disambiguated, or how citations by authors with the same last name but different first names should be disambiguated. I understand, though, that you're in charge of the style guide, so we'll take your word for it (but you may want to clarify this in future editions). |
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Thanks! |
YoungZoe commentedSep 5, 2018
Disambiguation wasn't working correctly as it should use letters after the year rather than including more names.