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Chicago Manual Presentation issues #3243

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adam3smith opened this issue Jan 4, 2018 · 5 comments · Fixed by #4358

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commented Dec 27, 2018

This issue hasn't seen any activity in the past 30 days. It will be automatically closed if no further activity occurs in the next two weeks.

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commented Jan 4, 2019

@adam3smith – In jgm/pandoc-citeproc#45 (comment) you said, “Chicago has so many moving parts that it always takes a bit longer to fix, but shouldn't be too hard here.” – Your work’s much appreciated, and I have no complaints at all about having to wait some time …

… but I do have my doubts whether the new stale bot indiscriminately closing issues after 30 days of inactivity is such a good idea – it seems to kind of defeat the actual purpose of an issue tracker.

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commented Jan 5, 2019

but I do have my doubts whether the new stale bot indiscriminately closing issues after 30 days of inactivity is such a good idea – it seems to kind of defeat the actual purpose of an issue tracker.

We can exempt certain tickets from being automatically closed.

We added the bot to help us manage tickets for style submissions. The volume of these tickets is quite high, and we don't always have the time to respond right away. We also often have to wait to hear back from the contributors.

Hopefully the bot will help us in responding more timely to such tickets, while automating the process of style submission tickets that need to be closed because the contributor doesn't provide all the necessary information we need to accept a style.

Any suggestions to improve our workflow are always welcome, though.

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adam3smith added a commit that referenced this issue Oct 15, 2019
Fixes #3756
Fixes #3243
Fixes duplicate dates in map and artwork: 
https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/69887/date-in-cms-map-citation#latest
Extends uncertain date to all 17th edition Chicago styles
adam3smith added a commit that referenced this issue Oct 15, 2019
Fixes #3756
Fixes #3243
Fixes duplicate dates in map and artwork: 
https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/69887/date-in-cms-map-citation#latest
Extends uncertain date to all 17th edition Chicago styles
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commented Oct 16, 2019

Great this is being dealt with. However, it seems that with the latest fixes to chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl, event and event-place are omitted from the notes (they used to be included previously; see jgm/pandoc-citeproc#45 (comment)).

CMOS (17e, 14.217) quite clearly does call for including this information in notes:

  1. David G. Harper, “The Several Discoveries of the Ciliary Muscle” (Power­Point presentation, 25th Anniversary of the Cogan Ophthalmic History Society, Bethesda, MD, March 31,2012).
  1. Viviana Hong, “Censorship in Children’s Literature during Argentina’s Dirty War (1976-1983)” (lecture, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL, April 30, 2015).

pandoc example (same as in jgm/pandoc-citeproc#45 (comment)):

pandoc -s -F pandoc-citeproc -t plain <<EOT

Foo [@item1]. Bar [@item2].

# References {-}

---
csl: chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl
references:
- title-short: Early violent death in delinquent youth
  author:
  - family: Teplin
    given: Linda A.
  - family: McClelland
    given: Gary M.
  - family: Abram
    given: Karen M.
  - family: Washburn
    given: Jason J.
  id: item2
  issued:
    date-parts:
    - - 2005
      - 3
  title: 'Early violent death in delinquent youth: A prospective longitudinal study'
  type: speech
  genre: paper
  event: Annual Meeting of the American Psychology-Law Society
  event-place: La Jolla, CA

- author:
  - family: "D’Erasmo"
    given: Stacy
  id: item1
  issued:
    date-parts:
    - - 2000
      - 4
      - 26
  title: The craft and career of writing
  type: speech
  genre: lecture
  event-place: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL
...
EOT

Actual output (with the latest chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl):

Foo.[1] Bar.[2]

References

D’Erasmo, Stacy. “The Craft and Career of Writing.” Lecture,
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, April 26, 2000.

Teplin, Linda A., Gary M. McClelland, Karen M. Abram, and Jason J.
Washburn. “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth: A Prospective
Longitudinal Study.” Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the
American Psychology-Law Society, La Jolla, CA, March 2005.

[1] Stacy D’Erasmo, “The Craft and Career of Writing” (lecture, April
26, 2000).

[2] Linda A. Teplin et al., “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth: A
Prospective Longitudinal Study” (paper, March 2005).

Expected output (just the notes):

[^1]: Stacy D’Erasmo, “The Craft and Career of Writing” (lecture,
    Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, April 26, 2000).

[^2]: Linda A. Teplin et al., “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth:
    A Prospective Longitudinal Study” (paper presented at the Annual
    Meeting of the American Psychology-Law Society, La Jolla, CA, March
    2005).
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commented Oct 16, 2019

@njbart Thanks -- yes, that's not right. Could you take a look at and do some tests on your end on this version:
https://gist.github.com/adam3smith/e57176585063ebdd822ebf414bc86965

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