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@adam3smith – In jgm/pandoc-citeproc#45 (comment) you said, “Chicago has so many moving parts that it always takes a bit longer to fix, but shouldn't be too hard here.” – Your work’s much appreciated, and I have no complaints at all about having to wait some time …

… but I do have my doubts whether the new stale bot indiscriminately closing issues after 30 days of inactivity is such a good idea – it seems to kind of defeat the actual purpose of an issue tracker.

but I do have my doubts whether the new stale bot indiscriminately closing issues after 30 days of inactivity is such a good idea – it seems to kind of defeat the actual purpose of an issue tracker.

We can exempt certain tickets from being automatically closed.

We added the bot to help us manage tickets for style submissions. The volume of these tickets is quite high, and we don't always have the time to respond right away. We also often have to wait to hear back from the contributors.

Hopefully the bot will help us in responding more timely to such tickets, while automating the process of style submission tickets that need to be closed because the contributor doesn't provide all the necessary information we need to accept a style.

Any suggestions to improve our workflow are always welcome, though.

Great this is being dealt with. However, it seems that with the latest fixes to chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl, event and event-place are omitted from the notes (they used to be included previously; see jgm/pandoc-citeproc#45 (comment)).

CMOS (17e, 14.217) quite clearly does call for including this information in notes:

1. David G. Harper, “The Several Discoveries of the Ciliary Muscle” (Power­Point presentation, 25th Anniversary of the Cogan Ophthalmic History Society, Bethesda, MD, March 31,2012).

2. Viviana Hong, “Censorship in Children’s Literature during Argentina’s Dirty War (1976-1983)” (lecture, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL, April 30, 2015).

pandoc example (same as in jgm/pandoc-citeproc#45 (comment)):

pandoc -s -F pandoc-citeproc -t plain <<EOT

Foo [@item1]. Bar [@item2].

# References {-}

---
csl: chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl
references:
- title-short: Early violent death in delinquent youth
  author:
  - family: Teplin
    given: Linda A.
  - family: McClelland
    given: Gary M.
  - family: Abram
    given: Karen M.
  - family: Washburn
    given: Jason J.
  id: item2
  issued:
    date-parts:
    - - 2005
      - 3
  title: 'Early violent death in delinquent youth: A prospective longitudinal study'
  type: speech
  genre: paper
  event: Annual Meeting of the American Psychology-Law Society
  event-place: La Jolla, CA

- author:
  - family: "D’Erasmo"
    given: Stacy
  id: item1
  issued:
    date-parts:
    - - 2000
      - 4
      - 26
  title: The craft and career of writing
  type: speech
  genre: lecture
  event-place: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL
...
EOT

Actual output (with the latest chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl):

Foo.[1] Bar.[2]

References

D’Erasmo, Stacy. “The Craft and Career of Writing.” Lecture,
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, April 26, 2000.

Teplin, Linda A., Gary M. McClelland, Karen M. Abram, and Jason J.
Washburn. “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth: A Prospective
Longitudinal Study.” Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the
American Psychology-Law Society, La Jolla, CA, March 2005.

[1] Stacy D’Erasmo, “The Craft and Career of Writing” (lecture, April
26, 2000).

[2] Linda A. Teplin et al., “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth: A
Prospective Longitudinal Study” (paper, March 2005).

Expected output (just the notes):

[^1]: Stacy D’Erasmo, “The Craft and Career of Writing” (lecture,
    Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, April 26, 2000).

[^2]: Linda A. Teplin et al., “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth:
    A Prospective Longitudinal Study” (paper presented at the Annual
    Meeting of the American Psychology-Law Society, La Jolla, CA, March
    2005).

@njbart Thanks -- yes, that's not right. Could you take a look at and do some tests on your end on this version:
https://gist.github.com/adam3smith/e57176585063ebdd822ebf414bc86965

The pandoc example output looks like this now:

Foo.[1] Bar.[2]

References

D’Erasmo, Stacy. “The Craft and Career of Writing.” Lecture,
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, April 26, 2000.

Teplin, Linda A., Gary M. McClelland, Karen M. Abram, and Jason J.
Washburn. “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth: A Prospective
Longitudinal Study.” Paper presented at the Annual Meeting of the
American Psychology-Law Society, La Jolla, CA, March 2005.

[1] Stacy D’Erasmo, “The Craft and Career of Writing” (lecture,
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, April 26, 2000).

[2] Linda A. Teplin et al., “Early Violent Death in Delinquent Youth: A
Prospective Longitudinal Study” (paper, Annual Meeting of the American
Psychology-Law Society, La Jolla, CA, March 2005).

So, event-place and event, if present, appear.

I noticed that “presented at the” is no longer inserted in items inside notes (though it is in bibliography items). Given that this string it isn’t actually ever used in items in notes by CMOS itself (16e and 17e), that’s acceptable, I guess.

I’ll run a few other tests; if I spot anything unusual, I’ll let you know.

Is there any reason why the chicago styles use number variable="issue" whereas many others (in fact, all others out of the 61 styles that happen to sit in my ~/Zotero/styles folder, with the exception of ieee.csl) use text variable="issue"?

The reason I’m asking: When using footnote styles with number variable="issue", pandoc(-citeproc) incorrectly renders issue fields that happen to contain an en-dash (e.g.,1–2) with added spaces as 1 – 2. (I haven’t observed any of this with Zotero/LO.)

The extra spaces disappear when using, e.g., a patched chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl which uses text variable="issue".

Of course, the best solution will be to get pandoc itself fixed (I’ll file a bug report at the pandoc issue tracker soonish).

As to the csl side, at the moment I’m just curious whether there’s any reason to prefer one or the other.

I don't think there is -- I suspect this goes back to @fbennett 's original coding of the style and may well have just been a generic preference by him at a time when we were all still figuring out how CSL 1.0 was going to work best -- git blame shows the last change to the number variable lines to be reindenting by Rintze 7 years ago... The only reasons to use number variable is to remove non-numeric content and/or to take advantage of number formatting like ordinal or roman. Neither is the case here. I'll switch this for everything except edition.

OK both remaining issues mentioned by @njbart -- the event/event-place and the number variables -- are fixed in 176df5f